Saturday, September 4, 2004

My New Tempurpedic Bed

tempurpedicSo I finally got a new bed. I got one of those squishy Tempurpedic mattresses. It's also larger, I went from a full to a queen size. I don't really have a good opinion yet, but I don't have any complaints yet. Actually I have a minor one, I had to put different rails on my bed frame and besides the fact that they aren't the right color (I bought them four years ago) they are lower so now I can't get the under the bed boxes out from under the bed (but that isn't a Tempurpedic Mattress issue).

In the morning I felt like I didn't feel like I tossed and turned, I'll see more after a few more days....

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Brian commented (on March 26, 2007 1:01 PM):

Josh, I hope it works out for you. We're really enjoying the Rhapsody to date. With the King size we are both trying to alternately sleep closer to the center thereby expanding the "broken-in" area on both sides of the bed. Plenty of room in this bed, so it's no problem. The middle seems just as accommodating after a few mninutes in that spot. I didn't spend much time in the Celebrity during our search, but I agree the support/comfort balance of the Rhapsody is just right. Choosing it was, in fact, a "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" process.

Gail commented (on March 29, 2007 10:26 AM):

I bought my Tempur-pedic adjustable bed 3 weeks ago and love it. The ability to read with my feet up and have no neck or back pain is worth the money I spent and it was a lot. The vibrating massage does wonders for my back. I think there is a comfortable bed for every person. It is just a matter of finding the right one.

Doug commented (on March 29, 2007 12:34 PM):

We took delivery of our Rhapsody adjustable queen bed today.

I'll post a report back in a few weeks after some sleep time.

The smell is very slight and not obnoxious at all (not what I was expecting based on some posts here).

Josh commented (on March 31, 2007 9:38 AM):

So, the guys from Mor furniture picked up the celebrity and the guys from sleep train dropped off the rahpsody yesterday, and all i can say is, "ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........". Only, the first night, and this bed alreay sleeps great. I laid on a broken-in one at the shhowroom, and it felt great too. I can't wait!! The celeb was too firm, then too soft when it broke in, this bed is perfect! soft, but soooo supportive, and cheaper! and less smelly! and i feel like i can move around in it! Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!

Brian, i think you know what i mean. :)

-Josh

Norman commented (on April 2, 2007 2:02 AM):

I guess with memory foam beds... people either love them or hate them. I got my Angelbed Riviera Queen (the equivalent of the Tempurpedic Rhapsody) and I've slept soundly at night. I haven't had an issue with sheets sliding or with the gassing odor people have reported with TP. It doesn't have springs and it feels firm in a comfortable way. I understand this kind of mattress is not for every one. On a site like this you will find more complainers simply because its human nature never to be completely satisfied and some people can't be satisfied with a particular mattress since one works better for them than another. My Angelbed does work for me.

MRGIMME commented (on April 2, 2007 4:48 PM):

Does everyone with a Rhapsody have the matching base?

I know it bumps the price up $500 but it is the only way they will honor the performance warranty.

Also if I HAD to come up with a downside it would be changing sheets! When you pick -up a corner to put on the fitted sheet I hope you have had your Wheaties?

POLL: How often do you change your sheets?

I do it once a week- unless I slide a couple days past the one week mark.;^|


fishairflow commented (on April 3, 2007 1:09 AM):

hey guys...now about 2 months on the celebrity - and I love it.
I love this place - whet from Rhapsody to celebrity.
Lynn and others who have had some time on this bed - how do you like it so far??

I am on the east coast - and the weather has been a bit warmer - but I think the celebrity might be just a tad bit hot for me already. I think the temp in my room is about 70 - 71 - I have to say - the bed is not getting too soft for comfort - HOWEVER - as I said - when i wake up - I feel the bed is too soft.
We have a down comforter - do you guys think this may have anything to do with that?
In any case - for now I STILL love the bed and will keep it.

Oh - and to answer the question - Lynn - I do have the tempurpedic protective cover - and you are right - the bed does seem a bit firm with it. But then again, I am afraid to get rid of it as I don't want to loose the protection. For our sheets we found some deep pocket wamusita (not sure about the spelling)_ sheets that were originally for 250$ but paid about 40 $ (on clearence at Bed bath and beyond).

Will keep you updated guys...

Lynn commented (on April 3, 2007 1:58 PM):

fishairflow,
Hi! Good to hear you are still enjoying your celebrity bed.
We are as well. We love the bed and are much happier with the King Size Celebrity Bed than we were with the King Size Rhaposdy bed.
We love the plush feel of the cashmere pillow top.
We live on the east coast as well and will be very interested to see how the bed responds when the weather gets warmer??
I imagine it will just get softer which is fine with us.
We are very happy about our decision to switch from the rhapsody to the celebrtiy bed.
No complaints at this time.
Have a lovely day!

P.S.
We too notice that the bed is softer upon waking up. I would imagine it is because of the body heat during the night.

Chris commented (on April 3, 2007 10:09 PM):

I too have a King with a pillow top. The only compliants I have are that the pillow top slides every night 3-5 inches and the sheets (even the extra deep ones I got) pop off the bed.

It has gotten to the point that I tell people not to buy Tempurpedic because of it. While I like the mattress, your bed shouldn't need maintenance every day.
:-)

fishairflow commented (on April 3, 2007 11:28 PM):

Lynn...its good to hear from you too...LOVE THE CELEBRITY....hopefully it will just soften up JUST A LITTLE :)
CHRIS - you really gotta call tempurpedic to get the mattress cover - this will keep the sheets in place..and they wouldn't dare move... :). I am not sure about this - and i hope someone can confirm this - would this help with the warranty?

Lynn commented (on April 4, 2007 1:27 PM):

Chris,
Hi!
Fishairflow is right....
Purchase the mattress cover for your King Size Celebrity bed from Tempur-pedic and you will not have any more issues with the sheets sliding. None at all!
Have a great day!

Fishairflow,
Hi! I am not sure if the mattress cover helps with the warranty? I would imagine anything that protects the mattress would be helpful.
Keep enjoying your bed and have a great day!

Dvandva commented (on April 7, 2007 10:49 AM):

What a helpful blog. Many thanks!

I am hovering between the Deluxe and the Rhapsody (king size).

We actually bought and are sleeping on (6 wks now) the Costco knockoff (Novaform ComfortLuxe, just over $1K)-- good foam (I researched the company that makes it, since we have respiratory concerns in our family). My husband is fine with it, but it is too hard for me, and I am ready to try the TP 90-day thing. (Costco has no trial limit, so I can return this one for full refund at any point.)

I see that most who hover do so between the Celebrity and the Rhapsody. I am clear that I don't want a pillowtop, and I do like a firm bed. The Deluxe feels pretty good to me in stores, but I am interested in the potential longer life of the Rhapsody (?), as well as its denser foam. We are in the San Francisco Bay Area, so there aren't really wild temp. fluctuations.

Any Deluxe-versus-Rhapsody thoughts?
Thank you again for all the thoughtful posts (it took me 3 days to read the whole trail, and glad I did!)

Nick the Vest commented (on April 7, 2007 10:10 PM):

Our choice was the Tempur Pedic Celebirty Queen..In my opinon it was a bad product..It stunk like formaldehyde, polyurethane and a list of other chemicals to hard to spell..We had to air out our bedroom for a week until I sent it back, while I was airing it out it was cold out and the mattres was hard as a rock..Is this stuff good to breath in 7-9 hours a night for twenty-five years of your life, children included..Well I have noticed in life at this time there are 2 types of people, those who are conscience and others who are not..With that said you decide which you are and if you choose to be bullshited by adds and jerkoffs who say it is ok to suck up all that stuff and Im crazy..Well then enjoy your temur-pedic and the slue of other toxic stuff out there, If you agree with me find and support an organic company with more human concerns at the forefront of their products..Nick the Vest..
Peace & Love....

Brian commented (on April 9, 2007 10:43 AM):

Nick: Sorry you had a bad experience. Smart to send it back, but you would have had a better experience with a couple of weeks of patience, I'm sure. The two things you found unacceptable are well-known and temporary. Mine was too firm and smelled a little funny for less than two weeks. No, I'm not breathing in fumes 24/7 and no, I'm not self-deceived about it. Good luck with whatever you bought.

MRGIMME commented (on April 9, 2007 2:15 PM):

Brian I am not trying to start a big thing here but what if...
Just because we can't smell anything we are still exposing our selves to toxic elements - possibly carcinogenic compounds? I know most conventional mattress use foam as well so unless you sleep on buckwheat or some other grain or I think I even saw mattresses made out of horse hair! I just trust that Tempurpedic would not be selling toxic foam!

Brian commented (on April 10, 2007 10:37 AM):

Mr. Gimme, I do think about such things. However, I have to have some sort of faith that TP and other manufacturers operate with at least a modicum of ethics when they insert their products into our lives. If I didn't have faith in such matters, I would be growing my own organic food, living in a log cabin, sleeping on oat straw and making poultices and tonics for my maladies. I think it is important to avoid the known harmful elements in our living environments and ask questions. On TP's site, they indicate that the product is a polyurethane-based product. A little research might ease a pundit's mind or clarify a concern. I kinda' doubt these mattresses are silent killers as indicated above.

Newbie commented (on April 13, 2007 5:00 PM):

I was already to take the plunge on a $2,600 rhapsody when a little more research uncovered an option at Costco. They have a 12" memory foam mattress (mix of 5lb and 6lb density)for $899. Costco's return policy is open (any time) and they will refund everything including shipping. I figure I can't lose. If I don't like it I can always try the rhapsody. I was wondering if anyone considered this option and why they decided against it.

MRGIMME commented (on April 24, 2007 11:24 AM):

Hey Newbie,

What size was that rhapsody?

I have a Costco topper on my Rhapsody and it really makes my 17"+ Deep sheets fit better!

Still love my bed! Sleeping great!

Lynn commented (on April 24, 2007 4:52 PM):

Update:
We have had our King Size Celebrity Tempur-Pedic Bed bought directly from Tempur-Pedic for over 6 weeks now. No complaints at all. We enjoy the bed and no problems with the sheets staying on.
We are glad we made the switch from the King Size Rhaposdy Bed to the King Size Celebrity Bed!
Sleeping great!!
Well worth the price!

Tina commented (on April 29, 2007 2:25 PM):

I have had my tempurpedic bed for about 2-3 weeks. I bought it from a retail store and have been wanting one for a long time. I have bad shoulders from years of swimming but other than that was pain free (no back pain etc). Since sleeping on this tempurpedic bed I have the most excruciating low back pain first thing in the a.m, along with more shoulder pain than before. Once I have been out of the bed for an hour or so, I feel no pain.

I am going to attempt to return it but after reading the posts above I am preparing for a fight :(

PS. My dog sleeps on the bed and she is limping now!!!

Doug commented (on May 1, 2007 10:23 AM):

Follow-up from my post on 3/29/2007

It's been a month now and I'm happy to report we are really enjoying our new bed.

I've have lower back problems and been fighting numbness in my leg for about a year.

The numbness has been greatly minimized since sleeping on our Rhapsody bed.

We are also enjoying the adjustable base.

My wife and I slept fine the first night, without any adjustment period.

The "new" smell of the bed lasted probably two weeks.

The sheets haven't been a problem (we don't have the mattress pad yet).

So far, I'm happy with my purchase.

Mark commented (on May 3, 2007 1:03 PM):

Celebrity Cal-king. I'm very comfortable; my very pregnant wife loves it (although at 6+ months, she's fairly uncomfortable on ANY bed). I've always been a warm sleeper, but haven't had any problems with the new bed. Customer Service quickly sent me a cover for the "creeping sheet" issue. Unfortunlately, they sent king instead of Cal-king. When I called, they said "do whatever you want with the wrong cover" and 5 days later I had a new one in Cal-king. So, no complaints with them. I'm still barely in my trial period. I've always wondered whether we should have purchased the Rhapsody or the Celebrity, but since I'm comfortable on the Celebrity, looks like we'll keep it.
Also, since this seems to be a site where most people come to complain, I may as well mention that my aunt and uncle, my cousin and his wife, and my inlaws all have had Tempurpedic beds for 5+ years, and they all really like them.
Buy your bed from a reputable store, such as Sleep Train. Tempurpedic controls their pricing, so these stores will not negotiate (but they will throw in pillows, sheets, etc.) Two reputable stores in my area (CA Bay Area), Sleep Train and Mancini's, have similar but different return policies. Both offer 90 days. However, if you return to Mancini's, you must upgrade, or lose money (they will not refund the difference for a cheaper bed). If you buy at Sleep Train, they will let you make 1 exchange or return and they will refund you the difference (or all your money if you prefer). If you're on the fence and $4K is going to put a big dent in your wallet, you may just be asking for a reason NOT to like this bed. If the bed lasts 10 years, that's about $400/year, or just over $1/night. For a place I spend 1/3 of my time, that's a BARGAIN.
Good luck!

Mark commented (on May 3, 2007 1:48 PM):

Celebrity Cal-king. I'm very comfortable; my very pregnant wife loves it (although at 6+ months, she's fairly uncomfortable on ANY bed). I've always been a warm sleeper, but haven't had any problems with the new bed. Customer Service quickly sent me a cover for the "creeping sheet" issue. Unfortunlately, they sent king instead of Cal-king. When I called, they said "do whatever you want with the wrong cover" and 5 days later I had a new one in Cal-king. So, no complaints with them. I'm still barely in my trial period. I've always wondered whether we should have purchased the Rhapsody or the Celebrity, but since I'm comfortable on the Celebrity, looks like we'll keep it.
Also, since this seems to be a site where most people come to complain, I may as well mention that my aunt and uncle, my cousin and his wife, and my inlaws all have had Tempurpedic beds for 5+ years, and they all really like them.
Buy your bed from a reputable store, such as Sleep Train. Tempurpedic controls their pricing, so these stores will not negotiate (but they will throw in pillows, sheets, etc.) Two reputable stores in my area (CA Bay Area), Sleep Train and Mancini's, have similar but different return policies. Both offer 90 days. However, if you return to Mancini's, you must upgrade, or lose money (they will not refund the difference for a cheaper bed). If you buy at Sleep Train, they will let you make 1 exchange or return and they will refund you the difference (or all your money if you prefer). If you're on the fence and $4K is going to put a big dent in your wallet, you may just be asking for a reason NOT to like this bed. If the bed lasts 10 years, that's about $400/year, or just over $1/night. For a place I spend 1/3 of my time, that's a BARGAIN.
Good luck!

doug commented (on May 3, 2007 2:35 PM):

MY TEMPUPEDIC EXPERIENCE. I purchased a Rhapsody mattress 3 months ago, and am now returning it.

I experienced two problems. First, the higher density Tempur material used in tis particular mattress does not conform to the body as malleably as the regular Tempur material. As a result, the feel of the bed is not only firmer, but, in my opinion, not typical of the other Tempurpedic beds which I have previously slept on. There is little, if any, of that "sinking" feeling which (to me) represents the uniqueness of the Tempurpedic line.

Second, the bed, like all other Tempurpedic beds, sleeps a few degrees warmer than traditional or latex beds. As a result, I developed a skin rash. If you do not sleep warm, or don't mind that the area where your body touches the bed will be several degrees warmer than it would be with other mattresses, this should not be a problem for you. But I sleep warm, and like my mattress to breathe. In this regard, I find it amusing how the Tempurpedic reps try to fudge around this issue. They call the lower bases of their mattresses as "air flow systems." They say "there are billions of air cells" in the mattress (as there are in rubber materials!). When you raise the issue of the mattress being warm, they make the laughable claim that "the mattress helps with oxygen and circulation" -- i.e., things which occur when the body gets warm. I would almost label their marketing scripts a bit dishonst.

I know some people love these mattresses, and I know the regular Tempur material gives a very unique feel. However, I personally feel that Tempurpedic is more hype than reality (marketing is $4 mil a year), and that there are good latex beds (or latex/coil combo beds) which can provide a similar feel (in my opinion better feel) without the heat and breathing problems associated with non-breathable Tempurpedic mattresses.

lisa commented (on May 6, 2007 10:41 AM):

Hello All,

I purchased a king sized rhapsody bed in September 2006. The bed felt good for the first 6 months or so but recently the bed is killing me. I am waking up sore all over. The bed is just HARD. I bought it from a mattress store with a 90 day return policy and now that the return policy has expired I think Im stuck with this bed that Im still trying to pay off. Any suggestions on how to get the bed softer or any way to possibly return the bed. Thanks lisa

MRGIMME commented (on May 7, 2007 1:58 PM):

Lisa run do not walk to Costco and buy the 3" memory foam topper. I was happy with my Rhapsody and I just put this on because it took up a lot of room (king size) in my house.
(I had it to make my last conventional mattress sleepable...didn't help much)
I liked the firm support of the Rhapsody in the store(also I found the Deluxe too spongy and way to shallow for my sheets) and I expect that firmness will last longer than the the "pillow top" of a Celebrity. I have the option of replacing the pillow top or doing without. Please try this I think you will be happy (make sure you have "16 or 17" inch deep sheets though! Pet peeve changing sheets on the Rhapsody can be a chore I like to lift the corner of the mattress on my sleigh bed and it is H-E-A-V-Y! I doubt your average woman could do it.
Finally- I know this bed is a HUGE purchase... I am sleeping better than ever and find sleeping on the couch is no fun anymore... I hope everyone can find the joy I have with this bed. Another great thing... it is VERY silent of course no spring sounds or anything else the foam is very sound dampening. Another reason to sleep like a babe.

Evan commented (on May 7, 2007 11:08 PM):

Hello Everyone...

3 feet to my right sits my new tempurpedic mattress. I have had it a little more than 48 hours and feel a little quesy 9sp?) and headachy everytime I am near it. I tend to be sensitive to fumes and chemical smells, and was considering the possibility that I am having psychosomatic reaction, but I believe that the fumes from the off-gassing are making me feel ill. (Please direct me to any info on this regarding tempurpedics)

I continue to change my mind about what to do. I read a post and I am ready to return it. I read another and I ready to give the bed time to air-out and adjust. The problem is that I had to agree to $175 return fee, plus the price of the pillows at cost (75$ each.) And these "mattress professionals" want me to pay for delivery back to the warehouse.

If I could do it all over I would have just gotten an organic mattress. They aren't any cheaper but I bet I'd be sleeping soundly tonight. This little guffaw is going to cost me approx $400 to return.

I believe that I made a mistake. I have been sleeping on it with the cover that they gave me, which is not a zip cover, which I understand some people have received. When I am not here I turn on the fan and open all the windows in my apartment, and pray that the smell will disapate.

As for my first and second night's sleep, on the 9 inch tempurpedic, my rest was about average, but I do have some lower back discomfort. I really thought my kidneys were bothering me and then I read about lower back pain issues, and think that the mattress may be the culprit.

I regret that I have these things to say and know that I have no "proof" but this really has been my experience. If anything changes I will post again, I will be happy to report anything I experience good, bad or otherwise.

Dennis commented (on May 18, 2007 1:45 PM):

I've been disabled for the last 8 years following failed lumbar disc fusion. I am now on my 4th bed, which is a cheap AeroBed with a mattress cover and inexpensive discount store foam pad. I am comfortable with the mattress pumped all the way up, however if my wife gets in the bed with me, we both wake-up through the night in pain. My wife has Fibromyalgia and sleeps in an expensive Sealy (AirFoam?) latex foam mattress, which she sinks into and really loves. However I can't spend 5 minutes in the bed before my butt sinks and causes excrutiating pain. Niether of us is real heavy for 50 somethings.

We originally looked into the Select Comfort Sleep Number Split King adjustable bed, I often have to lie down during the day to relieve the pain and having my knees and head up helps a lot! But I read on a consumer complaint website about poor quality, leaks, mold, and awful customers service.

If we buy TempurPedic, we would get the split king adjustable, I tried the ClassicBed in a store and liked it for its firm support. Because of the Fibromyalia, my wife needs a much softer bed and likes the DeluxeBed. I'm especially interested in comments from severe back pain sufferers and Fibromyalgia sufferes. I've read much on this sight about low back pain from sleeping on TempurPedic; but I wonder if it is because they bought softer beds than the Classic, which I believe may not have offered enough support to the lower back.

If we bought 2 seperate beds and moved them together, we would have a height difference problem. I wonder if I would get enough support from the DeluxeBed, however I know the ClassicBed would be too firm for my wife.

If the TempurPedic is a total failure for us, TempurPedic would not take the adjustable foundation back. I'm thinking about buying the regular split king with the ClassicBed on one side and the Deluxe bed on the other side. We could then switch back and forth and hopefully the ConfortBed would give me enough support. If we like the TempurPedic within the trial period, I could order the adjustable foundations with the hope that TempurPedic would take the standard foundations back for credit.

We could also just order the TempurPedic from a local store, but they would only credit us for one other bed of equal or greater value. So, another thought is to buy direct from TempurPedic and send it back within the 90 days. We could the buy it locally or maybe reorder it direct. I know that I would have to pay for shipping, but that cost is well worth it if we don't like the beds. Any comments, please?

lisa commented (on May 19, 2007 4:33 PM):

MRGIMME thanks for the advice on the cosco topper. I will definetly check into getting one after my move in a couple weeks. Does the topper effect the heat activating property of the tempurpedic mattress? When I purchased my rhapsody the sellswomen said NOT to put anything on it but sheets becuase you will not be heat activating the mattress with your body heat thus making the mattress ineffective. LIsa

Lori commented (on May 19, 2007 10:39 PM):

I just spent the day in emergency, trying to figure out why I woke up with my eyes unable to focus (literally spinning around which the doctor saw), and unable to balance. I'm very healthy and fit, and after spending MY FIRST NIGHT in the Celebrity Bed, this happened! If it takes time for the chemical smell to dissipate, there is a presence of chemicals - THAT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE. I'm buying an organic bed now, and am happier sleeping on the floor than another night on that bed. They took it away today - wouldn't have it in the house any longer.

MRGIMME commented (on May 22, 2007 3:37 PM):

Hey Lisa,
Here are MY layers:
1. Floor
2. Sleigh bed with wood slats every 18" or so
3. Rhapsody foundation
4. Rhapsody King Mattress
5. $30 dollar quilted waterproof
mattress cover (NOT TPedic)
6. 3" Costco Topper
7. 500 Threadcount or higher single ply Egyptian cotton sheets
8. $300 Dollar comforter with assorted duvets
9. Me
10. My cat

Sometimes I think I get a little warm and kick off the covers. I may be neutralizing some of the mattress benefits but I have never slept so well and I used to enjoy sleeping on the couch and now it feels like the back seat of a car stuffed with laundry!

I feel sorry for all the Stinky problem people out there... maybe if you have a sensitive smeller you should get delivery and then go on vacation. I can't smell that well but my wife can and she said it was fine in a week or so. I smelt it the first night -but what does not have "brand new smell"? For this much money it should!

Medical conditions vary and allergies/reactions should be monitored.

Sweet dreams!

Sylvia Elias commented (on May 23, 2007 3:14 PM):

We all need to replace our mattresses at some point, but never before has making this purchase involve the possibility of getting sick. Anyone considering buying a new mattress should look into what's in a mattress. Boric Acid (roach killer) is the most common substance used for flameproofing. Other chemicals used include Antimony and DBDPO. We humans absorb these chemicals everytime we sleep, and who knows if they ever leave our bodies. We are slowly being poisned everytime we sleep. As consumers we should demand products that contribute to our health. In saving 200 lives from bed fires we are potentially poisoning millions. Cancer effects can be cumulative from exposure to toxic chemicals, so buy a natural, organic bed and sleep well!

Gary LaPointe commented (on May 23, 2007 4:41 PM):

I'm not saying we should ignore what our environment is made out of but there is context.

Let me take a simple component out of context:
Water - too much and you can drown but you need enough to live and the probably use it to make the beds too. Obviously, it's an extreme but that's my point, unless you really know how much is bad for you then it's hard to really know.

All sorts of chemicals are used to make foods and make poisons but it's just how you mix them together and what you use it for.

IF there is really a threat to our health from the fumes I would think that someone could find a place to point us to on the 'net that states that it's significantly bad for us. An independent report, a competitors site, a news article or something. Just keep that in mind.

Gary LaPointe commented (on May 23, 2007 7:51 PM):

Test of commenting.

Sometimes when commenting it generates an error. I'm working on this :)

Just repost your comment a few times, I'll remove double posts. This post just has SO many comments it's hard to troubleshoot (it's 10 times the next largest post).

Thank you.

Gary LaPointe commented (on May 23, 2007 8:44 PM):

Test again

Lynn commented (on May 30, 2007 1:14 PM):

Hi to all!
We have had our Tempur-Pedic King Size Celebrity Bed since March 9, 2007 and we are happy to report that we love it more each day.
Curious?? How are other Celebrity bed owners feeling about their beds (fishairflow, Cindy etc).. Are you still enjoying the bed?
Have a wonderful day!

Cindy commented (on May 31, 2007 4:10 PM):

Lynn, it took some time, but now I love the Celebrity. I had problems the first week adjusting to the warmth (now I don't even feel it) and then for a few months after, I had low back pain where I hadn't before and I felt it only in the morning upon arising and at night while in the bed. I DO believe I had to adjust to the bed because it was so much softer than our previous bed. I think my back muscles had to get used to the new level of firmness. I was really worried at first that I wouldn't adjust - I was beyond the return pt and my husband liked the bed. A few months ago (we've now had the bed one year), I stayed at a hotel with a spring bed and tossed and turned all night. I could not sleep at all. Getting back to my celebrity was heaven after that. I don't think I could go back to springs.

cindy

Lynn commented (on June 1, 2007 6:09 PM):

Cindy,
I agree. I really do think that it takes time for your body to adjust to a bed like this.
We were worried too at one point becasue we both began to experience shoulder pain. Neither of us had ever had shoulder pain before.
Then the pain went away!
Yes, when we go away on the weekends. We really miss our bed a lot!
I think if we had kept the Rhapsody bed.....we would have been miserable.
It really is a matter of choice and I think the Celebrity bed was the best choice for us personally.
Thanks for responding and sleep well!!

Joy commented (on June 3, 2007 1:05 AM):

I just bought a Grand Bed by tempur pedic. I haven't seen any post and I'm wondering if any one has one? I absolutely love it and haven't experienced any problems I admit I looked foolish sniffing the bed for the odor which I had read about. I'm amazed at the lack of waking up and tossing and turning. I agree it's different from conventional mattress and I guess it just not for everyone. Well off for a good night of Zzzz's

J Smith commented (on June 7, 2007 12:32 PM):

I got my tempurpedic-like bed from www.astrabeds.com. It's the same stuff and it's about 1/2 the price. I had to get used to the bed and pillow but once I did I have really enjoyed the mattress . I think people just don't give it a chance.

Candra commented (on June 8, 2007 9:16 PM):

For all of you tempurpedic owners who are searching for the perfect sheets...I believe I have found them! Tempurpedic has listened to your cries and have come out with their own brand of sheets that are guaranteed to fit ALL tempurpedics. I decided to TEST their guarantee as my husband and I purchased a Cal-King Celebrity Adjustable bed about a month ago and after reading these posts I was in terror thinking I would never find anything to fit this monster of a bed.

To my delight, the sheets arrived today and I put them on the bed and they fit beautifully. They do not fit so snug that the celebrity pillow top is scrunched...it's just right. For anyone who has struggled with finding sheets; I urge you to try these. And...the best to all of you.

Oh, one more thing...we adjusted the bed several times back and forth and the sheets did not come up in the middle like they used to. They stayed perfectly tucked under the entire perimeter of the bed. :) Pleasant night sleep to you all.

Frank F commented (on June 11, 2007 3:45 PM):

I am thinking about purchasing a Tempurpedic Bed. I live in the Phoenix area and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the bed in warmer climates. Is this bed the wrong choice for HOT climates? It gets pretty hot here in the summer and my home even with A/C is difficult to cool below 78 in the summer months. Anyone advice would be much appreciated.

MattressGuru commented (on June 16, 2007 8:23 PM):

People need to remember that everybody is unique in the type of comfort they seek out of a mattress. I personally wouldn't recommend a visco-mattress (like Tempur-Pedic) to someone who is having back problems. Such people need support for their back and visco doesn't in my opinion provide the needed support.

If you are someone who doesn't have back problems, Tempur-pedic may work well. Don't assume because someone sleeps fine on that mattress that you will also. We all have different issues with our body and therefore our needs when it comes to support are different.

I do not sell Tempur-pedic, not because i dont think it's any good, in fact i think it works great for some people, but the price is way too much. Remember that Visco is a NASA Technology which was used by Tempur-pedic first so they ended up implementing it as a sleeping surface and therefore profiting greatly out of that. But now a days all major mattress manufacturers are using that NASA technology in their own mattresses; thus bringing the prices down, way down!

Don't be fooled by salespeople ,who unfortunately tend to be dishonest, who will tell you that Tempur-Pedic is better and that the others can not compare. Just take a look around their stores and you will find that they are also selling visco mattresses from other major brand and even small independent mattresses manufacturers. The reason? Because it's the same technology just at a lower price. Of course if you are a "label-whore", then you are not really paying for anything other than the same technology you will get from a visco mattress made by say Simmons, Sealy, Serta, or any other mattress maker...you are just paying for the label that says "Tempur-pedic".

The bottom line is that when you are shopping for a mattress, you need to go to the store and try mattresses out. When you have a bad back, it will be hard because your back will have to get used to sleeping on a new surface and it will be "forced" to a correct position which may make you think it's cousin more pain to your back. Give it a few weeks so your back can re-gain its normal posture; after all, your back hurts because all this time it has been in a position that is not normal so getting it back to "normal" will feel weird to you.

Also, when you go out and look at store and you finally pick a mattress, remember that you will have to sleep on it to see if it's actually the mattress for you. Many stores offer a "Comfort Trial" which means take the mattress home, sleep on it, and if you are not satisfied with they way it sleeps, you can exchange it for another one. That's great but remember that you need to exchange it for a mattress of equal or greater value. If equal value you dont pay anything, but if greater value then you pay more money (the difference). Well when you originally buy a mattress make sure the store has sufficient models in the same price as the one you are buying. Most stores purposely do NOT have mattresses at the same price point so when you exchange your mattress, guess what? you are FORCED to pull more money out of your pocket.

What if the next mattress doesn't feel right either? Then you keep bumping higher and higher and before you know it you have spent well beyond your budget and still no comfort. That's why my intent has been to provide a large mattress store which various models so you can have at least 3-5 different mattress that are the same price; thus giving you more than one option without having to pay more!

Good luck and Sweet Dreams...

Jackie
www.SweetDreamsMattress.com

Jill commented (on June 19, 2007 1:55 PM):

Hello. My husband and I purchased the TP Grand bed a couple of days ago. I'm still a little dizzy from the price and hope to recover soon. Last night was our first night on the bed. We've never before slept on a foam mattress (except possibly a time or two at a hotel) and are hoping that we love it. My husband has been suffering from back/neck/shoulder discomfort because of the mattress we just replaced with the TP. It was an innerspring pillow-top that, after 7 years of regular use, sagged very noticeably in the center. His discomfort finally got so bad that we just had to go buy a new mattress.

My husband was home to accept delivery yesterday and noticed only the faintest odor. I had informed him of that possibility, so we were both happy that the smell was faint and short-lived. We no longer detect any odor. My husband slept through the night for the first time in months. I woke up periodically, but not due to discomfort. I think that the mattress just felt a little strange to me since I am not accustomed to sleeping on memory foam. I like the combination of plushness and support. My hope is that I quickly adjust to the mattress and experience no problems. In addition, I am hoping that the mattress will continue to retain its shape for many, many years. My parents have a TP which, after 3.5 years, continues to bounce back to its original shape. So far, so good.

I'd love to hear other opinions of the Grand bed.

Wishing everyone well!

haden commented (on June 22, 2007 4:01 PM):

i slept on one of these tempurpedic at the hilton de soto in savannah georgia and i hated it. every night, i'd akw up sweating and so i'd take off the blankets and be cold on top and warm underneath. the material is a great insulator. they should find other uses because as a mattress it sucks!

AlexR commented (on June 29, 2007 11:10 PM):

I recently was researching for a TP mattress or something similar. The price was shocking, but from what i felt at the retailers, it would be well worth it if what the positive posts claim are true.

I am a bit......curious bout the negative comments. People dont make things up like that, so that fact is detering me from buying. Ive also been looking at airsprung mattresses... anyone have experience with them?

Jennifer commented (on July 1, 2007 11:12 PM):

Thanks for the posts.. i too was thinking about purchasing one and... am tired of companies who can't give good and respectful customer service. I have changed my mind not just because of the lack of customer service but for the CEO's apathy and lack of action for the customer even after finding out how many unhappy people there are!
JW

ana commented (on July 17, 2007 4:00 AM):

thanks everyone. almost bought one. and they are so expensive. but all the stories about the fumes,the hot feeling in summer and ice cold in the winter, the lower back and shoulder pain, about being unsafe for infants and not reccomended for intimacy,had me convinced otherwise. thanks but no thanks.

Lynn Garman commented (on July 26, 2007 4:15 PM):

My husband and I are 60 and 62, a tad overweight and both light sleepers. We tossed and turned and ached and moaned on three different expensive king-sized mattresses for years. We heard about Tempurpedic and went to try one. We paid a bundle for a king adjustable Rhapsody bed about a year ago.

I can tell you that it's worth every penney we spent! We no longer toss and turn; we don't wake each other with covers shifting when we turn over. There is absolutely NO movement of the other side of the bed when we get up or come back to bed.

I always had had back problems and woke almost every morning with an achy back. No more! My husband had trouble with numbness in his shoulders when he slept on either side. Now he sleeps very comfortably with no pain or numbness. We absolutely LOVE our bed now. One of us can read and not keep the other one awake; even lowering or raising the bed level doesn't wake the other one.

I swear that even if we had had to take out a loan to buy this Tempurpedic bed, it would have been worth it. I would gladly pay whatever it takes to get a decent night's sleep.

We found X-Long twin sheets at Land's End. They are soft and felt like old ones from the first washing.

We couldn't be happier. I'm sorry that so many other writers didn't get relief from their TP beds. Maybe the Rhapsody is a newer version and has been improved?

Jillian commented (on August 1, 2007 8:40 PM):

What a wonderful discussion site that I found rather by accident! Actually, I just bought a mattress, after trying 35 of them at various stores. The only mattress we tried that really pleased me was the Tempurpedic, but it costs about 15 times what I could afford. So you see, I for one have truly enjoyed reading all the negative comments here--I don't feel so bad that I had to pass up the "dream" mattress.
I thought of making my own foam mattress, but ended up buying a rebuilt mattress that seems quite as comfortable as the new ones we tried. Nonetheless, it's too firm. They're all too darned firm. When I was younger, I liked extra-firm mattresses, but not now. Like some of the posters here, I want something that will make me ache less, not more!
Well, I am bleary-eyed after reading these posts for an hour and a half. Thanks for all the opinions and info!

Roman commented (on August 6, 2007 1:00 AM):

I purchased the celebrity bed by tempurpedic a little while back. I have never had back pain before even while sleeping on an old fashioned box spring mattress, but this new bed made me feel really stiff in the morning with aches and pains. The problem was that it was too soft!! I currently own the classic bed by tempurpedic, and I absolutely love this bed. Two years of great sleep and no pain. Yes, it gets a bit hot in the summer on this mattress, but it doesn't bother me too much. I am not giving up this bed for anything. The lesson I got was to never buy a mattress online without trying it first at a mattress store. I realized right away that the celebrity was too soft for me. I didn't need the 90 day in home trial. Every body is different. Some people love spring mattresses and have pain when sleeping on foam mattresses. You just have to explore a bit yourself.

fishairflow commented (on August 16, 2007 2:27 AM):

aaah....love it love it love it...just a 4 month update for the celebrity mattress. I still love the mattress. I strongly believe that the key is to not let the room be above 75 degrees. The bed certainly responds to the temperature - so if the room is too hot - your bed will be a bit too soft.
I would like to add one more thing. I usually sleep on the side and have never been able to sleep on my back. Contrary to what I thought, this bed is no exception and I still sleep on my side. HOWEVER, I HAVE YET TO FEEL THE PRESSURE ON MY SHOULDERS !...I feel like sleeping on a cloud. !
I always wondered....what does the GRAND BED feel like compared to celebrity? Maybe should have gone for that?

Patz commented (on August 16, 2007 10:42 AM):

I have read just about all of these posts, and have not seen anyone mention anything about the Tempurpedic Bella Sonna Bed. It is the new technology with the latex cylinders underneath the foam. So it is more like a regular mattress. I have been looking at the bed for a little while now, and have tried laying on it at the store for extended periods of time. (I think the sales people see me come in to try it out again, and just let me do my thing by laying there, which is nice..)I like it.

Anyway, does anyone have any reviews or information specifically on the Bella Sonna Bed?

Any info about it is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

ronda commented (on August 18, 2007 1:24 PM):

i have had the Celebrity for about 2 1/2 years. i suffer from hip pain, and muscular back pain since buying the bed. my neck is sore every morning, and the muscles between my shoulder blades, and down each side of my spine burn with pain on a daily basis. i've been complaining about this to my husband for about a year, BUT, until the past few months he didn't believe it until he began having pain in his shoulder muscles, and neck. finally, he is in agreement it's not just me, that IT IS THE BED - - don't buy this bed unless you are into the "joy of pain".

Gary LaPointe commented (on August 18, 2007 2:34 PM):

As the original poster I feel the need to comment once in a while on this thread (and to encourage you visit my site at http://GarySaid.com/

First of all, it's been almost 3 years and I love my Tempurpedic bed!!! And you do need to keep it cooler to really enjoy the bed (domething to this effect was in the manual).

Secondly, remember that people who don't like something are most likely to seek out and complain on-line. I'm not complaining about this it just seems to be true in my experience.

I'm sure many of us have slept in a bed or two that wasn't their own and the person who owned the bed absolutely loved it but we did not. That does not make it a bad bed or a bed that someone else should not buy. It just makes it a bed that the person who doesn't like it shouldn't purchase it.

Obviously some people don't like it. But many people do, just keep that in mind when reading all these comments.

Lynn commented (on August 19, 2007 10:24 AM):

Hi to all!
We have had our King Size Tempurpedic Celebrity Bed since March 2007 and we love it more and more each day!
With that said, I also want to let you know that honestly it is a bed that you have to get use to. You will feel pains in areas that you may have never experienced before.
However, your body will work out the kinks and will adapt to the bed.
We experienced pain as well initially, but then it went away.
We have not had any pain in quite some time, but again initially we did. It lasted for the first two months.
With that said, we truly feel we made the right decision with getting rid of the King Size Rhapsody Bed and getting the King Size Celebrity Bed.
But just like fishairflow we wonder about the Grand Bed.
Maybe in the future:)

Frank gannon commented (on August 20, 2007 6:53 PM):

I am so glad I found this site. My wife and I bought a TP about 8 years ago. The first few years, we thought it was great. Whenever we were away, we couldn't wait to get back to our TP. However, in the last four years, I have developed severe bilateral shoulder pain and have experienced significant loss of range of motion in my shoulders. I chalked it up to old age (58). Also, after strenuous exercise or work, the mattress seems to irritate my lower back. Last year, we went to the Bahamas for a week and our mattress was terribly firm. After three days, my shoulders felt great. Since then, I thought that I was just desperate for a cure for my shoulder pain, so I discounted the possibility that the TP could be the cause. Now, after having read these posts, I truly believe the mattress is the culprit. Also, my wife is not sleeping well, complaining of being too hot even though the thermostat is set on 70. The mattress is cupping where we sleep and it is like sleeping in a ditch, even though we bought both the box springs and mattress from TP. Tomorrow I am going shopping for a new mattress. I have had enough of the TP. I was thinking about a sleep number, but I see a lot of negative comments about it too. Oh well, I'm making a change- can't be any worse than now.

Frank commented (on August 21, 2007 9:33 PM):

Until I found this site, I thought I was going a little crazy. My wife and I bought a TP 8 years ago. First 4 years we loved it. When we went away, we couldn't wait to get back home to "our" mattress. We told all our friends it was the only way to go. About 4 years ago, I started experiencing bilateral shoulder pain and stiffness(of the shoulder) and decreased range of motion. I assumed it was old age(58) onset. Then we went to the Bahamas for a week and slept on a really firm, uncomfortable mattress. Within three days I had no shoulder pain and for the rest of the trip I felt great. When we got home the pain returned immediately. I figured that being in a relaxed, half-inebriated state for a week had helped and that being back in the grind brought back the pain. Then, two years ago, I was out of the country for 8 weeks on a job and my shoulders stopped hurting again. When I returned, the pain returned. Two months ago, the pain got so bad, I went to physical therapy and the therapist told me that my shoulders were rotated internally and he prescribed exercises involving external rotation of the joint. After 2 months, I have better range of motion but still have severe pain. After reading the many posts on this site regarding shoulder, neck and back pain. I now believe that the TP mattress is causing at least part of my problems. I believe that as my torso sinks into the mattress, my shoulders are rotated forward.
Also, after eight years the mattress is "cupping" where we sleep and it's like lying in a ditch. Reversing the mattress did no good.
Bottom line-we loved the TP for 4 years, but the last 4 have not been good. We kept thinking it was us because we had enjoyed the TP so much before. The only way to be sure is to get another mattress. We got our money's worth, but I think it is killing me now.
Starting tonight, we are sleeping in the guest bedroom until we get a new mattress of some kind. Thanks guys, maybe I am not "grabbing at straws" looking for a cure for my shoulder pain, after all. We shall see.

jandjshi commented (on August 23, 2007 5:30 PM):

I am surprised that no one has mentioned this before, maybe it’s a touchy subject or maybe it only happens to us. In my opinion, a bed has to serve two purposes, to sleep and to have sex.

My wife and I have our queen size celebrity for 3 years, and we love the sound sleep we got from it. But let me tell you, having sex on this thing is so uncomfortable. Your hands and knees are sinking into the mattress slowly, but you lose support quickly. It’s hard to change position. The mattress has absolutely no bounce. The bed is hot as hell afterwards. Just as you thought things can’t get any worse, the sheets sliding problem on celebrity bed is accelerated when you have movements on the bed. I don’t like the feeling of laying butt-naked on the bare mattress surface. We can’t help but to laugh on the scene.

Now we moved our pull-out sofa from the den to our bedroom. But guess what? our sleeps are so good that we are willing to sacrifice the little inconvenience after all. Not many things are made to serve just one purpose well, let alone two.

Chloeee commented (on August 23, 2007 6:38 PM):

My husband & I bought the Tempur-Pedic Deluxe bed from a Brookstone store near us on May 27, 2007. We are not small people, both could stand to loose a bit. I've slept on the bed far more than my husband has because of his traveling, etc. My side of the bed in less than 90 days is concave as soon as I get into it each night now. While I love that my shoulders no longer hurt (I'm a side sleeper) my lower back and sides are now hurting and almost too uncomfortable to sleep. I called Tempur-Pedic today to start the return process and got someone less than professional and kind of snappy. I was told unless I bought it from them, I had to call the company I bought it from. I had read the back of my Brookstone reciept which stated their regular return policy which is that after 30 days you have to contact the manufacturer, not them. So, I worried that I was in for the run around. I got someone very helpful right away and they are supposed to contact us in the next few days to arrange pick-up. So far so good. I'm now considering buying the BellaSonna bed thinking it will still give me the relief from shoulder pain but, provide more support for my back & sides. My only other issue is that the bed really is kind of hot. But, in the past, on our Select Comfort bed, we slept with the same amount of bedding (my husband the furnace is all covered up and I am just under a sheet). And during a wave of humidity this summer, it was really gross to wake up clammy. If the bed would have retained it's original firmness there's no way I would part with it.

So, given all this me recommendations are to buy from Brookstone and not Tempur-Pedic. And if you are over-weight the basic models of this bed may not be for you.

Ashwin commented (on September 10, 2007 2:09 PM):

I just spent an entire day at work (don't tell my boss) reading through this Blog. I just tested the TP beds at a local NJ store and loved the feel. I have fairly significant sleep apnea and have not had a good nights sleep in probably 15 years. Yes I am an extreme case. I slept in the Celebrity, Deluxe and the Rhapsody models and found the Rhapsody to be a good mix for me. I need to decide before they raise the prices the day after tomorrow, so I am very happy I found this site. I am absolutely desperate for great mattress and hopefully a side effect may be an improvement with my nagging lower back problems. After reading the comments I have decided to take the plunge in a few hours. I will keep you posted but if this bad boy can help me, then it can help anybody.

1 Question regarding the unevenness indentations after sleeping on 1 side (We have this now in our current King mattress). Can this mattress be flipped and/or turned like others or is there no need for it?

Regards and keeping my fingers crossed.

Sleepless In California commented (on September 11, 2007 8:02 PM):

We purchased the split king model and the smell was terrible as well as the sheets issue!

After many months, I have to say that this bed is almost perfect though.

The smell went away and the sheets issue we solved by purchasing from an outfit that carries sheets actually designed for particular Tempur models.

I do not know how to place a link but here is their address: http://www.HardToFindSheets.com This site will probably help many people who own the bed as the sheet fit is perfect and the quality is like the Tempur mattress, top notch.

So, if you are sensitive to chemicals, I would recommend maybe a natural latex bed or the Tempur and keep it aired out for a few weeks before sleeping on it. (that can be a tough one)

We chose between the two but are happy now with our bed.

Travis commented (on September 15, 2007 9:07 AM):

It is unethical for anyone who works or sells TP to post without full disclosure of any relationship with TP.

Gary LaPointe commented (on September 15, 2007 11:33 AM):

I sleep with my Tempurpedic every night, does that count as a relationship with TP?

But seriously Travis, do you have a point? (or accusation for one of the commenters?)

I certainly think we have a balanced forum here, even if someone from TP posts, it's not like every comment is pro-TP here.

ARyan commented (on September 17, 2007 12:49 AM):

Hi everyone, your posts have been very helpful. We just received our TP Celebrity King size bed yesterday and I expected it to be very firm and uncomfortable until we broke it in. Thing is, the bed is just as soft as it was in the store! I am worried if it gets any softer, I won't like it. Can anyone advise on this?

We live in Phoenix, so is it possible the bed as been in a warm warehouse/truck and it is as soft as it will be? Maybe it has already experienced a broken in period? I don't know what to think, but judging by other's comments about the beds getting softer over the first few months, I am worried. Our bed simply cannot get any softer.

On another note...should we trade in for the Deluxe? I was thinking we should have started there as it is a firmer version of the Celebrity, but we didn't...so now I have to figure something out. Any input would be much appreciated :)

Mrgimme commented (on September 17, 2007 2:45 PM):

Love this bed, although I have a 3 inch topper foam topper on my Rhapsody king (you can NOT flip this- and I believe they say you do not need to turn it) I still love this bed. I do have sleep apnea and used a breathe right strip the other night and it helped does anyone have any other ideas or sites?

debbie commented (on September 17, 2007 5:46 PM):

We just purchased a Rhapsody tempurpedic bed. It was delivered friday so we have slept on it for 3 nights. I can say our bed is rock hard compared to what we tried in the store, not what I expected. I hurt really bad after the first night, but not so much today so hopefully it is just an adjustment period and the bed will break in!! On the other hand, my husband who has major back issues has been very comfortable!! Also just to comment on some of the complaints/concerns that we've read, we had no major odor with our mattress and so far no issues with feeling too hot when sleeping.

johnny ton commented (on September 20, 2007 6:09 PM):

for everyone on this post that doesnt like their tempurpedic bed i live in dallas tx and i wanna buy one so email me at trick69@tmail.com ill take that off your hands

johnny ton commented (on September 20, 2007 6:09 PM):

for everyone on this post that doesnt like their tempurpedic bed i live in dallas tx and i wanna buy one so email me at trick69@tmail.com ill take that off your hands

Mrgimme commented (on September 21, 2007 10:09 AM):

Welcome aboard Debbie! Did you buy at a place that has a good return policy? Many people who the bed does not work for get burned that way. We selected the Rhapsody because we expected the denser foam to last longer. As I have said before I just put the 3" Costco topper on because I had no where else to store it in our house. It really makes the bed like a Celebrity BUT in five years when the soft foam top on a Celebrity goes bad it is stitched in and they are stuck. I can choose to buy a new foam topper or not... Another reason I like the topper is our previous bed was a VERY thick mattress so I bought super deep 18" and up sheets. The Rhapsody is 10-12" thick plus the 3" topper makes my sheets fit better. And it makes me think my rhapsody will last longer because instead of me sinking 4-6" into the mattress I am first sinking 3" into the topper. Which should give the mattress a longer life. Also I prefer the zip off cover of the Rhapsody... which the Celebrity does not have. I am sure if you can afford a Celebrity you can probably afford to change it out every few years. I am trying to make the most of my bedding investment! My wife LOVES sleep! If there was an Olympic Sleeping event she would GOLD!

Tim commented (on September 24, 2007 3:12 PM):

Does the Tempur-Pedic matress have to be flipped on a regular basis like a conventional matress?

Thanks.

Squirt commented (on September 30, 2007 3:38 AM):

HI.

I should start off saying hubby and I tried the TP original back when they came out probably 13 years ago. He loved it, I hated it, so we returned it. Since then the company has obviously made improvements. We are still in a mattress predicament. Hubby is pretty much comfortable on anything. But I've had 20+ surgeries, and have severe neuropathy and general pain, especially trigger points, numb arms, etc. So even in the car I sit on a pillow or my butt and legs go numb. I need softness, but not a hammock affect like you can get with a Sleep Number, which I tried too.

Anything too hard and my bones, muscles and nerves ache.
My only good analogy is the orthopedic type shoes available....shoes like Birkendstocks are hard as a rock and painful to me but others love the stability of them. I need a super soft, no bells, not and whistles like arches or toe grips. The sandal I like, SAS, is just simple cushioning and doesn't dig into my painful spots.


SO anyway,we thought we'd look again since a lot has changed in 13 years. We just got back from laying on all the TP mattresses from the Rhapsody, Celebrity, Bella Sonna, and the Grand. Whew..$7,299 for the Grand. So is it worth it? Does anyone have any opinion on this model?

My biggest concern with a TP mattress is the heat factor. I told the sales rep this and he said TP had resolved this with all the "air chambers". I'm thinking when you sleep on the chambers (corrugated foam), don't you squish them flat anyway? He said NO!

Heat is a huge, make or break, issue for me with this illness I have.

He told the story about oxygenating your blood and increasing circulation, which after reading here it seems they are trained to say this. Increasing circulation...which if you ask the average person that would imply that you warm up to increase circulation.
But he said I would not be hot.
Kind of a contradiction or maybe I just am not understanding the science behind it?

The other issue is that I keep my bedroom cold because of my illness (I cannot even take hot showers), about 65 degrees. Will this make my bed too firm? This is what happened with the original all those years ago. I am only about 100 pounds, so while it was hot on the spot I laid on, it still felt like a brick. Hubby is 200 pounds, so he loved it. Again, the sales rep said this will not happen with the higher end models...that TP had resolved the too firm issues.

So I am torn to try it again especially since hubby loves the idea of getting one. But he also doesn't want me in more pain that I already am.

This store only offers an exchange, not a full refund...so I probably would give up his offer of two free pillows, mattress cover and frame just for the ease of mind and order direct from TP if I need to return...$7,299 is hard to justify unless it REALLY improved my aches and pains, which is the whole reason we are looking for a new mattress.

Oh and this sales rep says the Grand is firmer, but softer on pressure points. How can that be?
Any advice would be appreciated. I've already spent so much on mattresses and I just don't know what to try anymore. I have to throw out or sell the practically new Beautyrest we bought because it is too firm. Tried it for 2 years, but it's not growing on me. Hardly have used it, yet here I am looking for another.

Thanks, and nice blog to the person that started this. Is there anywhere else to read about the TP Grand or other high end mattresses? I found Epinions too vague, not distinguishing between the different models well.

Thanks,
S

Mrgimme commented (on October 3, 2007 10:35 AM):

Have you ever heard of the duxbed? (www.duxbed.com) If money is not an object (and with your health it should be considered as an investment in your well being!)

I think your thermostat is too low to enjoy a foam bed.
Especially with the firmer foam on the higher end models.


Good luck and please post your findings if you try the Duxbed.

NOTE: I would like to correct ALL of my previous posts by saying that my topper is actually 2.5 inches not three.


Squirt commented (on October 4, 2007 3:30 AM):

Doesn't anyone have feedback for my long post above?

Hubby and I went to another store to lay on the beds again. They say the Rhapsody and Deluxe are their biggest sellers. It was a lot colder in this store. In the first store I could have sworn the Grand was the moving inviting and comfortable. But in this other store the Grand felt had and the Deluxe felt the softest...and then to my surprise the Rhapsody felt softer than the Celebrity set right next to each other. The sales rep and hubby agreed. We felt the Deluxe and Rhapsody almost had the same feel....has anyone else found this to be true? Also, is the satin cover less hot than the cover that's on the Deluxe? We are all over the map about what to buy! Please, does anyone have some guidance? I am a small person and hubby is twice my weight, so we obviously have different needs, but I'm the one in pain all the time and need a cushy feel.
Thanks,
Squirt

Squirt commented (on October 5, 2007 12:42 AM):

I was also wondering if any of you have the adjustable Celebrity, Rhapsody or Deluxe? I don't want to split the king though, as we don't want a split in the middle of the bed.
The salesman said on the Deluxe is optimal for being adjustable...that the thicker models would have to "squish up" too much.
Thanks,
S

Greg commented (on October 6, 2007 8:42 PM):

I am very happy today as we ordered a new King size King Coil mattress. My wife and I can't stand the TP any longer. Constant back aches and excessive heat has caused many a sleepless night. Anyone who may have even a small amount of back pain should avoid this bed. Get something with some suppport.

debbie commented (on October 7, 2007 5:42 PM):

Hi Update about my Rhapsody, first night was horrible but we are getting used to it, still can't say I love it, husband likes it but he liked old one also. To answer some of Mr Gimme's questions, the place where I purchased has a exchange policy where if you don't like it you can pay a fee and exchange for another bed BUT I negotiated (and got in writing) a full refund minus 175 return fee within 90 days, it's similiar to tempurpedic's return policy. I also paid about $750 less than the retailer's price but that's another story!!!
Mr Gimme, we also had a costco topper that we used in our motor home, we took your suggestion and put it on our rhapsody, it is softer now which helps as our complaint is that it is way too hard!! Definitely doesn't have that AHHHHH factor we liked in the store! Hopefully that will come within our 90 day return policy! We also stopped using the tempurpedic pillows as we were both getting neck pain from them. Perhaps they have to be broken in also??

MrGimme commented (on October 9, 2007 12:34 PM):

Thanks for the reply Debbie. Sounds like you really negotiated a good deal we paid about 3200 for our King Rhapsody... seems crazy but the TP Grand is about 7k and the duxbed cost even more! I use the pillow but only as a backer to my mushed up King down pillow that is so old it would fit in a shoebox! My feeling is the Rhapsody does break in but I think room temp affects softness as well- we keep the temp at 78-76, go much colder and the bed might not give as much.

Another thing is I have my mattress pad covering the Rhapsody- It is too small to cover the topper too... how about you?

I have heard non TP mattress pads (like mine) can affect performance... But I can spill a glass of wine and not stain a 3 grand bed- I am good with THAT!

I just noticed with my costco topper and mushed up down I do not actually sleep DIRECTLY on TP! Maybe thats a secret to customizing them to your precise comfort...I feel foam is a great base- springs seem so barbaric! It stands to reason metal will deform over time. My last spring mattress was a torture rack- I am not EVER going BACK!


GOTH commented (on October 12, 2007 2:41 PM):

CAN ANYONE HELP HEAT QUESTION AND CHOICE WITH CELEBRITY VS. RHAPSODY ????

My wife and I are going to buy a TP but cant decide if we want the deluxe,rhapsody, or celebrity ? Or first choice is the Celebrity !!
My main concern is the heat thing I keep heaing about and waking up all sweaty? Does the cashmere cover help with less heat and adding the TP cover help with less heat ???? I sleep hot as is and if It was hotter I dont know if I could sleep ?
Has anyone had this problem with the Celebrity or rhapsody?

Also the ones that posted that they traded in the Rhapsody for the Celebrity, what is the big diffrance you have noticed or like more about the celebrity ?
Thanks anyone who can help us deside and make the right choice?

debbie commented (on October 13, 2007 1:20 PM):

Mr Gimmee, we have the mattress pad that is recommended for the TP mattress, fits over the mattress AND costco topper just fine. We still have several weeks to make up our minds.........I really want to LOVE it!! :)

Goth, I too was concerned with sleeping "hot" and am happy to say have not had any heat issues with the Rhapsody. Don't know what makes the difference!!

Mrgimme commented (on October 15, 2007 11:11 AM):

Hey Debbie is the TP cover waterproof? I make take the plunge. I might agree the bed can get hot... but never to the point of I can't sleep here- we do kick our covers off alot more but everynight I lay down and form a custom imprint of my body. there is support where I need it and is also very quiet because the foam deadens sound.

We also have a couple little bean bag squishy pillows, that we use to prop an arm or whatever.

I wish I could have spent only half as much on a mattress...

But we spend a third of our life on this thing!

People considering Rhapsody versus Celebrity remember:

Celebrity soft top could wear out.
Rhapsody has a zip off liner.

Save a grand and buy the Millesimo Sheets by Sferra
You will think you are ROYALTY!


Lynn commented (on October 21, 2007 2:00 PM):

Goth,
Hi!
We first purchased the King Size Rhapsody Bed and personally we did not care for it. We made a decision to get rid of the King size Rhapsody bed and switch to the King Size Celebrity Bed. We have had our Tempur-Pedic King Size Celebrity Bed since March 9, 2007 and we are happy to report that we love it more and more each day.
Be sure and buy the tempur-pedic mattress cover and you will not have any issues with the sheets coming off the bed.
We have not really had any issues with the bed sleeping too hot. However, when we first got the bed, we did not have the mattress cover yet and with the just having the sheets over the cashmere top, I do remember sleeping hot.
Overall, we enjoy the bed and with the Celebrity King Size Bed there is simply just more comfort and worth the money. We did not feel this way with the Rhapsody bed.
Keep in mind.....your bed is a personal choice and everyone sleeps differently.
Looking back, I am glad we purchased the rhapsody first and then traded it in for the Celebrity bed. It allowed us to try out both and make our decision. This kept me from wondering....what if??
Good Luck!

ARyan commented (on October 24, 2007 12:34 PM):

Hi Everyone,

Well we have had our TP Celebrity King Size matress now for just over a month and we are leaning toward trading it in for the Deluxe. The Celebrity is very soft. I think it has to do with living in Phoenix. Now that the weather has cooled at night and our house is in the low 70's upper 60's, the matress is perfect, but this will not last long. Most of the year our house is in the upper 70's and sometimes low 80's. I have found the Celebrity is much more comfortable when it is cooler. So....if you live back East, this may work for you - but in a warm climate, I think it's too soft.

Anyone have any insight on the Deluxe? Is it firmer than the Celebrity?

ARyan commented (on October 24, 2007 12:36 PM):

Hi Everyone,

Well we have had our TP Celebrity King Size matress now for just over a month and we are leaning toward trading it in for the Deluxe. The Celebrity is very soft. I think it has to do with living in Phoenix. Now that the weather has cooled at night and our house is in the low 70's upper 60's, the matress is perfect, but this will not last long. Most of the year our house is in the upper 70's and sometimes low 80's. I have found the Celebrity is much more comfortable when it is cooler. So....if you live back East, this may work for you - but in a warm climate, I think it's too soft.

Anyone have any insight on the Deluxe? Is it firmer than the Celebrity?

mscarol commented (on October 26, 2007 4:15 AM):

I just bought the rhapsody queen mattress set and am not liking it one bit!!! Everything tied into the horrible never diffusing scent that this mattress has. The mattress is comfortable however Im up all night because of this chemical smell. I'm concerned because my son who is 3 sleeps with me and is breathing this chemical smell. It smells like some kind of roach pesticide, if I could relate it to a familiar scent. Could we be warned of this before taking the plunge and then Im looking at a 20% restocking fee of a 3000 mattress set. It' s crazy. I just wanted a good nights sleep and was willing to pay for it and I run into this!!! I am going crazy, Im sick of the smell, my son got allergies, and I dread the 20% restocking fee which I am most likly going to do is return it. I'd rather sleep on the floor. I should have gone with organic or regular mattress at this point. Sorry to say but hope it helps someone out there!!

Mrgimme commented (on November 1, 2007 9:59 AM):

Aryan I think the deluxe is even SOFTER than the Celebrity.
The Rhapsody is fulltime firmer and may be the right bed for you.

Mscarol I suspect you have a dud bed. We have a Rhapsody king and the smell was gone within 24 hours. There is NO WAY Tempurpedic could survive as a company making beds that stink as much as you claim.

Unless you have a bionic nose?

Have a friend or two over and see if they agree...

Or go back to the spring beds and have fun!

Chuck commented (on December 2, 2007 10:21 PM):

I just purchased the Rhapsody king. Noticed it was quite abit firmer than what is felt in the store. Salesman says it will soften in the next couple of weeks. He says it was OK to step on it to accellarate the break-in period. My question is will this bed really get softer and by how much? We have 90 days to trade-in. Does anyone know which mattress is the next softest below Rhapsody? We were told the Delux.

Thanks,
Chuck

Mark commented (on December 10, 2007 2:37 PM):

We've had our Cal-King Tempur-Pedic Rhapsody now for about 10 months. I posted here several months ago and we were happy with it. As of last night, I'm no longer sleeping on it. It's essentially turned into a bed with two soup-bowl depressions where we sleep (only when we're on it, of course), and an almost firm-as-new middle. It has gotten so soft in the waist/lumbard area that it's killing my back.

Even my wife, who loved the bed initially, is now waking up sore. Since TP's warranty doesn't cover the sagging that happens when you're actually ON the bed, we're going to be out almost $4000. I don't even feel like I can sell the bed, even for a few hundred dollars, because I'd feel too guilty for the buyer. It's a complete piece of junk. I'm now looking at latex/organic beds, but will need to do something soon, because as of last night, I'm sleeping on our queen guest bed.

I called TP customer service to explain what's happening, and it was clear the woman on the line didn't care. She said she'd email me some warranty info (which of course I've already read), and SHE DIDN'T EVEN DO THAT! If anyone has any really good multi-year experience with a latex/organic bed, please email me info at markdbrown(at)yahoo(dot)com.

I'm sorry I ever said anything positive about this bed in fear that someone may have read my comments. This 10-month old bed is now softer and less supportive that the 10-year old pillow-top saggy old mattress it replaced.

Mark commented (on December 10, 2007 2:39 PM):

Sorry, I mis-posted...torturous bed we bought was the Celebrity, not the Rhapsody.

midnightinthemorning commented (on December 14, 2007 5:27 AM):

Have not seen much written about the Tempur-pedic BellaSonna. Well I purchased one, been sleeping on it for less than a week and I have mixed results. Part of me feels it is hard as a rock and not conforming to the body and the other part feels maybe I am expecting too much from the mattress. I purchased the BellaSonna since I did not care for the real squishy feel, thus the BellaSonna was to provide a mattress feel with the benefits of the tempur-pedic comfort. To be honest with you, I wake up every morning with a backache and question should I take advantage of the return policy and just get a normal spring mattress! The total cost with box spring and tax was well over $5,000, which is a lot for something you don't really enjoy! My view is that the BellaSonna was a good idea, but does not cut it and feels like your sleeping on a rock. Any one else have experience with the BellaSonna?

tom commented (on December 18, 2007 9:24 AM):

I guess I'll jump in and put in my two cents.
I have been sleeping on a Deluxe Tempurpedic now for over 2 years. I absolutely love it. Even more now than initially.
It still is in perfect shape. I see no indentations or deterioration of any kind.
Here is my saga. I hated it when I first got it. But I met a mattess salesman on a forum online who kept telling me to give it a chance. He said to give it a month. I had all kinds of neck and shoulder pains, but he said they would go away. That first month taught me a lot about the TP.
First off, I personally feel it is essential to get the right pillow. I have tried many. I have come to the conclusion that the best pillows for this mattress are TP pillows. I cannot stand the contour pillows, though. They hurt me.
I am using the classic pillow. And sometimes alternate with the comfort pillow. I also use the body pillow. So I am immersed in TP comfort all night long.
Second. I think it is very important to consider our psychology when choosing a TP mattress. For instance, I have found that the old "getting into bed" feeling I had my entire life was completely challenged at first. I kind of unconsciously experienced a form of grief now that I look back on it. I missed the traditional bed feel. And felt almost sad that I had left it behind. So, I have come to the conclusion that people who have trouble accepting change, may have a lot of trouble with a mattess as radically different as a Tempurpedic mattress. Something to consider before buying.
After about a month, my newbie aches and pains vanished and have never come back.
I have terrible terrible back problems. I have, however, found that the lack of pressure points is a God-send for me. To this day, when I am in bed I marvel at how comfortable I am in this mattress.
Another thing, when I first started shopping for a TP, I could not decide which one. I went crazy over that.
I tried the classic, the celebrity and the rhapsody before I got the deluxe.
The classic was way too hard for me. And I needed to sink more.
The celebrity--and this is just me-- felt like it was engulfing me too much. The rhapsody felt way too hard for me. But some people feel the opposite and think the deluxe is too hard.
I finally settled on the Deluxe and it's perfect for me. Although I do have Grand Bed lust. Not because I am unhappy with the Deluxe. Just because it seems like it would be incredible.
I sleep very hot in general. I never have a problem with my TP though. I don't even have air conditioning and I still don't sleep hot with it. But. And this is a big but--I have really had to adjust my bedding considerably. I cannot use heavy blankets and heavy duvets and such. The way the bed works heatwise has made me rethink my bedding. Now I have it down to a science and I am never hot.
I have 2 friends and my cousin also, who all bought deluxe TP's. They all love them.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
I love talking about this mattress because it's solved a lot of problems for me.
I don't resist going to sleep anymore. I sleep deeply and do not toss and turn any more.
I used to be an insomniac.
I will never go back to a spring mattress. But it's such a very personal thing. I am not trying to talk anybody into it. I am just trying to offer some tips, suggestions and my experience in case it helps somebody in deciding or adjusting to the bed.
Please ask me any questions about it if you like. I'll be glad to try to answer them.
One other thing. I spent 2 years online reading mattress reviews. I mistakenly purchased a Sealy Venice Beach latex mattress first. I lost money on it, because I could not return it. For me, it crippled me. Other people love it. I learned from that painful experience not to trust online comments. I mean, they are important. But I found it's best to trust myself. I had read so many bad reviews of the TP, that, although I longed for one, I didn't buy it for over 2 years because of other people's comments.
Finally, I splurged and started to try them out until I found one that fits.
Remember, no one knows you like you. The one good thing about the TP, is that you can try it out for a few months and return it if you don't like it.
Hope this was interesting. :)
Tom

david commented (on December 30, 2007 12:57 AM):

I have had the bella sonna for 2.5 months now and I love it. I have a bad back, but I think this bed keeps it from getting aggravated overnight. Also on my old cheapo $300 regular mattress I had a hard time sleeping on my sides b/c my shoulder would hurt. I don't have this problem at all on the bella sonna. I love it and have been getting great sleep on it.

Other people who have tried it at my house also like it. Considering the benefits to my back and my sleep, it's probably my best purchase ever.