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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So I get an e-mail from iTunes today stating that an episode for my new season pass for &#8220;Sophie&#8221; has arrived.  The first thing I thought was that I accidentally clicked &#8220;buy season&#8221; when I downloaded the free pilot last week.  But when I check the receipt I see six other items (in [...]<p><b><a href="http://GarySaid.com/"><img src="http://garysaid.com/garyssaidlogo2.png" align="left" /></a>Please leave a comment or trackback about <a href="http://GarySaid.com/is-my-apple-itunes-account-hacked/">Did someone hack my iTunes account?!?</a>, click the tags and categories below for related information or visit <a href="http://GarySaid.com/">http://GarySaid.com/</a> for more posts.</b>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So I get an e-mail from iTunes today stating that an episode for my new season pass for &#8220;Sophie&#8221; has arrived.  The first thing I thought was that I accidentally clicked &#8220;buy season&#8221; when I downloaded the free pilot last week.  But when I check the receipt I see six other items (in addition to the season pass) totaling <strong>$61.93</strong>!  Not only that, I see another order for $5.97! Not a chance that I placed these orders (FYI, the orders were placed at 1 am and 5 am).</p>
<p><strong>Here&#8217;s the really strange part:</strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Fie%3DUTF8%26x%3D0%26ref_%3Dnb_sb_noss%26y%3D0%26field-keywords%3Dipod%26url%3Dsearch-alias%253Delectronics&#038;tag=garylapointe-20&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957"  target="amazB0002ZAEY0.THUMBZZZ"><img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002ZAEY0.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg"  border="0" hspace="2" vspace="2"  align=left></a>  <em>Almost all of the purchase was videos (tv, movies, movie rentals) and I think those kinds of videos still have DRM in them and no additional computers were authorized. </em> What good are these to anyone if they didn&#8217;t authorize a computer?  Can they even play them?  Wouldn&#8217;t it have been easier to have just downloaded torrents of these files?  <em>These oddities make me think it&#8217;s an accounting error. </em></p>
<p>So I had to &#8220;report a problem&#8221; to Apple/iTunes for each of the 10 individual items.  The e-mails went something like this:<br />
<blockquote>I did not place this order for any of the 3 items on this order.  Nor has my computer downloaded these items.  It&#8217;s order XXXXXXXX  I also have another order from today (ZZZZZZZZ) that I did not place.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve changed my password as a precaution.  I also tried to play some older protected/DRM&#8217;d music and it still plays (so I&#8217;m guessing if someone hijacked something they didn&#8217;t deauthorize my computers).  </p>
<p>Gary LaPointe (phone ###-###-#####)</p>
<p>PS &#8211; These purchases don&#8217;t even meet my normal purchasing patterns.</p></blockquote>
<p>My responses appear to be identical other than contact info (and I only got one response for each of the two orders):<br />
<blockquote>Dear Gary,</p>
<p>My name is Jane Doe with the iTunes Store. I&#8217;m so sorry to hear of the unauthorized charges made with your iTunes Store account. I can certainly appreciate your concerns, and will do everything I can to assist in having this resolved. </p>
<p>With regards to financial reimbursement for the charges in question, these would have to be removed by a specialized team, designated to handle requests of this nature. I would urge you to contact your credit card company as soon as possible to inquire about canceling the card and removing the unauthorized transactions. A member of your credit card&#8217;s fraud department will contact the iTunes Store directly, and this team will resolve the issue. I apologize that I&#8217;m unable to remove the charges myself, but all unauthorized transactions must be handled in this manner.</p>
<p>If you suspect you are the victim of identity theft, please consider following these recommendations:<br />
<font style="font-size:x-small;"><em><br />
(they then gave 14 lines of tips that I cut out)</em></font></p>
<p>I sincerely hope that you are able to resolve this matter with the help of your credit card company, as soon as possible, Gary. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Jane Doe<br />
iTunes Customer Store Support</p>
<p>Please note that I work, Sunday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 12:30 PM &#8211; 9:00 PM this week</p></blockquote>
<p>The identity theft issues don&#8217;t even make sense.  Why would someone steal my charge card number and log into my iTunes account? The CC number won&#8217;t even get them into my account and if they had a CC number, they could just create their own new account and I wouldn&#8217;t have know about it for days.  And Apple doesn&#8217;t display the account number.  I&#8217;m thinking, it&#8217;s an accounting or some bits on the web got mixed up.   And the responses were generic enough where I&#8217;m not 100% sure they read the post.</p>
<p>I did notice they they did include their working schedule, which was even evdifferent for the two different people who responded (neither of whom were named &#8220;Jane&#8221;), it&#8217;s a nice touch but they both had the same return address (although the &#8220;follow-up&#8221; code could possibly redirect it).</p>
<p>I responded with:<br />
<blockquote>Jane,</p>
<p>I will have my charge card company dispute/remove the charges as you said to do below.  I have changed my password.</p>
<p>I have four (4) questions below in bold.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, they only gained access to my iTunes account.  They don&#8217;t have my charge card number, <strong>iTunes doesn&#8217;t display the number for them to see, correct?</strong>  A charge card number will not get them into my iTunes account.  If they actually have my charge card number, I&#8217;d think they&#8217;d charge more than $70 of music/videos and </p>
<p>So this is either someone guessed my password (which was letters, numbers and non-alphanumeric characters) or some data packets got mixed up as someone else was placing their order.  Since I have the two authorized computers in my possession and I know no one else was here using them, I&#8217;m assuming the latter. </p>
<p><strong>Can someone actually download songs/videos to a non-authorized computer if they guessed my password? </strong><br />
<strong>Since videos still have DRM, someone wouldn&#8217;t actually be able to play them, correct? </strong></p>
<p><strong>Someone at the iTunes Customer Store Support can&#8217;t actually intervene in some way, at least to stop someone from downloading the season pass? </strong><br />
If it&#8217;s just an accounting error, it&#8217;s still going to download the season pass to my computer the next time I purchase a song.  </p>
<p>Without my new password I&#8217;m assuming someone cannot download more of the season pass.  I don&#8217;t even see how they could have in the first place without authorizing a computer.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Gary</p></blockquote>
<p>And I can&#8217;t even dispute these charges yet since they haven&#8217;t fully been charge to my credit card company yet.</p>
<p>If anyone from iTunes/Apple is reading this and wants to fix this.  You can leave a comment below or <a href="http://garylapointe.com/email/" target="_blank">contact me</a> directly.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: </strong>  </p>
<p>Wow!  Lots of people with similar problems these last few weeks (see comments below), but I&#8217;m the only one that didn&#8217;t seem to have gift cards purchased on my account.</p>
<p>So it looks like my charge card is refunding the two dollar amounts to my charge card.  This is contingent to Apple not disagreeing with my claim.  FYI, after I said it was kind of stupid that they weren&#8217;t going to cancel the season pass since I was disputing it and they were still delivering the shows, Apple did contact me to say they would refund the rest of the season pass (right around the same time).</p>
<p>PS &#8211; It appears the Apple does not allow you to cancel a season pass!  This is insane, it&#8217;s to their benefit to get you to subscribe, the fact that you can&#8217;t cancel is a non-motivator.  Obviously if it was a discounted season pass and you canceled it, you&#8217;d pay the full price for episodes already received.  Just seems like an obvious solution. </p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t understand what they are doing with these iTunes <em>protected</em> movies/shows if they can&#8217;t play them?  Why not just download torrents off the &#8216;net if they are going to steal?</p>
<p><b>MY UPDATE:</b> I got Apple to cancel the season pass and I did get my money refunded from my credit card company.  It was confusing the way it cam through, I might have actually gotten credited from the rest of the season too (so I might have come out ahead, but after all the e-mails/contacting, I&#8217;m sure I ended up way behind).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><center><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">&#8212;&#8212;- ARE YOU FROM BOSTON?!? &#8212;&#8212; </span></center><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">A news station is doing a story on this and was looking for some people in the Boston area.  If you are interested in being contacted please state so in your comment.  I&#8217;ll pass your e-mail on to them.  If you put your phone number, I&#8217;ll pass that on too, but I&#8217;ll delete it from the comment (if you&#8217;ve never commented before your comment should not appear until I approve it).</span> Sadly I never heard any more details about the Boston story after forwarding details to them&#8230;</p>
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